You can't zig zag with immigration which is what Farage is trying to do. The UK is unrecognisable. He wouldn't back mass deportations. And he was drifting too far towards the centre.
Yeh I know. I already said the people who disagree are wrong. You lot want him to alienate voters 4 years before an election. You want to lose. Some of us aren’t like that. My advice to you would be to start your own party and do what you think is “pure” and see how far it gets you. I guarantee you won’t get over 5% of the vote share and it’ll take you 20 years to even get there. Or you can just trust that once we do take power, we’ll implement the strictest immigration controls (including deportation) that have ever been seen. But for some reason you don’t have that trust. Which simply means Reform isn’t for you.
No I agree with the strategy but I'm sorry mate—you're bashing us (your subscribers) over the head in damage limitation mode, but we didn't bring this about. We're just commenting our opinions or is that not allowed in Reform? Lots of love big kiss.
You’re a free subscriber to a substack you aren’t owed anything but what you signed up for — my take. No one’s in damage limitation mode. In fact, I hope the people who don’t back Nigel leave the party. There’s no room for splitters.
you completely avoided the main point that has most people pissed at Nigel and sympathetic towards Lowe: Immigration.
Lowe became popular because he was speaking out against the onslaught of "migrants" and calling for deportations. Nigel talks out of both sides of his mouth on it.
Lowe became popular not for the reasons you point out, but because the people need a strong voice against immigration and Nigel is not providing it. It is irrelevant whether you agree with it or not. It is the way it is.
I have always respected your insight and views and very much wanted you to become UKIP leader. This gives me pause for thought but I must still say that I’ve been very disappointed with Farage recently and Lowe has been much more in tune with the kind of approach I’d say most Reform voters want. Recently Nigel has praised Keir Starmer. He’s been almost silent on the unjust arrests and imprisonments that followed the so called Stockport Riots, which are really the UK version of J6 injustices. He attacked Tommy Robinson, which is an unnecessary and cowardly move. He seems in favour of the Globalist Ukraine conflict.
Yes Trump broadened appeal and reached outside the base. But he did it in a consistently populist way in keeping with his persona and principles and what the core voters respect. He didn’t run around praising Biden or chsnge his mind on perpetual wars or border controls. He wasn’t worried about what the people who would never vote for him said. He was unashamedly populist, and that has to be the template both to get into power and do something useful with it.
This current row is a disastrous mess. And it begins to look like a pattern after what happened with UKIP. What on Earth are grown men with the task of saving their country doing reporting to the police wha5 seems primarily to be an argument? That looks like either some kind of set up or the most unprofessional ego driven incompetence imaginable. And this after Habib left as well, who was also popular.
What he did on Brexit was superb, but those instincts seem to desert Nigel on other topics and he becomes something of a weak, drippy Tory wet and not the populist leader we need. With Trump success and Conservative Party failure as guide rails, it really should be easy to chart a populist course that can win, especially with a Labour Party as evil and malign as this one in government. But this Lowe situation seems like a massive avoidable own goal and many people see Farage and Yusuf as more responsible for it than Lowe.
You are absolutely incorrect about what Trump did. He has brought in people that were remarkably nasty to him, and were even him enemies at one point. As I explained, he literally went against the party and orthodoxy on a number of issues, in order to enlarge the tent. Many people said exactly of him what you're now saying of Nigel. Those people are now, obviously, irrelevant.
I don't know what to tell you if you think Rupert Lowe or Ben Habib could bring enough of the nation together to win a plurality or majority in the House of Commons. You are living in cloud cuckoo land.
And no, Nigel didn't "attack" Tommy. He simply responded to a question with his opinion. One which he is more than entitled to, even though I differ with him on it. Tommy knows he is his own worst enemy sometimes. He has told me that himself, many times over. Nigel's point about his behavior is simply a reflection of that instinct he has to seek out trouble, and how that sort of campaigning cannot function within a professional political party. If you think it can, why has Tommy not set up his own party? By your logic, he would be Prime Minister tomorrow?
Your problem is that you literally are the attempted puritan I write about in the piece. And this attitude will send Reform back to single digits.
"He has brought in other people that were remarkably nasty to him", yes, but he didn't change his objectives. He didn't give up. He's OK working with people getting good publicity. He likes it.
And most of all, Trump AND HIS TEAM created a plan to hit the opposition when they were elected. Farage hasn't even started to assemble a team to do this, after nine months in Westminster!
David Starkey, Matthew Goodwin and many others have said that the quangos, like the supreme court, the office of government statistics and the Climate Change Committee, need to be disbanded and the power AND RESPONSIBILITY need to return to ministers, so that we can return to the Crown In Parliament. This would unify the country, undoing the constitutional changes that Blair made, because it would return responsibility and authority to occupying the same space.
If the next government doesn't have a detailed manifesto, the House of Lords will BLOCK EVERY POLICY, as is the duty to do so.
I loathe Farage and his cronies in the same way I loathe Tory thieves and Labour scum! Nigel Farage's Reform UK took £120k of Covid cash - while saying 'scrap furlough'. Children and students have nor recovered yet from convid lockdowns and now we see so many with mental health issues still, no one is talking about them! Hypocrite, racist Farage also pushed Brexshit so hard that now Britain has become 3rd world country! Lack of services, mental illness, lack of jobs for the young graduates, lack of humanity or reforming the economy or the employment sector yet they have money for wars and yet no one blames Brexit or Farage or blames the corrupt thieving politicians (Tories and Labour) Zionists who sold the country and sold their souls to Lucifer for few shekels. Both wasted so much money on their friends, on useless PPP and fattening their pockets or the Elite tax evaders. They only talk about reforming welfare to the most vulnerable in our society, those on '0' contract, on lower wages and the disabled.
If you think £120K of their own taxpayer funds back to keep the party afloat is “fattening” their pockets, I can’t help you. If you think Brexit was a mistake then I’m afraid you’ve more of a screw loose than I am willing to entertain. Best of luck to you.
You can't zig zag with immigration which is what Farage is trying to do. The UK is unrecognisable. He wouldn't back mass deportations. And he was drifting too far towards the centre.
Sorry Raheem but have to disagree on this one.
Yeh I know. I already said the people who disagree are wrong. You lot want him to alienate voters 4 years before an election. You want to lose. Some of us aren’t like that. My advice to you would be to start your own party and do what you think is “pure” and see how far it gets you. I guarantee you won’t get over 5% of the vote share and it’ll take you 20 years to even get there. Or you can just trust that once we do take power, we’ll implement the strictest immigration controls (including deportation) that have ever been seen. But for some reason you don’t have that trust. Which simply means Reform isn’t for you.
No I agree with the strategy but I'm sorry mate—you're bashing us (your subscribers) over the head in damage limitation mode, but we didn't bring this about. We're just commenting our opinions or is that not allowed in Reform? Lots of love big kiss.
You’re a free subscriber to a substack you aren’t owed anything but what you signed up for — my take. No one’s in damage limitation mode. In fact, I hope the people who don’t back Nigel leave the party. There’s no room for splitters.
Get it together UK or you will loose your entire country to the EU GLOBALIST AUTHORITARIAN CARTEL FOREVER
you completely avoided the main point that has most people pissed at Nigel and sympathetic towards Lowe: Immigration.
Lowe became popular because he was speaking out against the onslaught of "migrants" and calling for deportations. Nigel talks out of both sides of his mouth on it.
Perhaps you are illiterate. Go back and read the 9th paragraph. FFS.
Mentioning it in passing and immediately dismissing it is not the same as dealing with it as the main point, which is what it is. FFS
Just to be clear, you think I have to agree with you? Lmfao. No. You’re wrong. That’s the point of the piece. Get your head around it.
Lowe became popular not for the reasons you point out, but because the people need a strong voice against immigration and Nigel is not providing it. It is irrelevant whether you agree with it or not. It is the way it is.
Yeh mate. The strongest voice on immigration for 30 years has suddenly decided he doesn’t care. A totally rational and not at all unhinged analysis. 😆
I am a (happy) paid subscriber, albeit an American, and I love Raheem even more after these posts! Big balls and TRUTH are most needed now!
Love you, Raheem, and FIGHT, FIGHT, FIGHT!
it seems i was right about this Raheem
I have always respected your insight and views and very much wanted you to become UKIP leader. This gives me pause for thought but I must still say that I’ve been very disappointed with Farage recently and Lowe has been much more in tune with the kind of approach I’d say most Reform voters want. Recently Nigel has praised Keir Starmer. He’s been almost silent on the unjust arrests and imprisonments that followed the so called Stockport Riots, which are really the UK version of J6 injustices. He attacked Tommy Robinson, which is an unnecessary and cowardly move. He seems in favour of the Globalist Ukraine conflict.
Yes Trump broadened appeal and reached outside the base. But he did it in a consistently populist way in keeping with his persona and principles and what the core voters respect. He didn’t run around praising Biden or chsnge his mind on perpetual wars or border controls. He wasn’t worried about what the people who would never vote for him said. He was unashamedly populist, and that has to be the template both to get into power and do something useful with it.
This current row is a disastrous mess. And it begins to look like a pattern after what happened with UKIP. What on Earth are grown men with the task of saving their country doing reporting to the police wha5 seems primarily to be an argument? That looks like either some kind of set up or the most unprofessional ego driven incompetence imaginable. And this after Habib left as well, who was also popular.
What he did on Brexit was superb, but those instincts seem to desert Nigel on other topics and he becomes something of a weak, drippy Tory wet and not the populist leader we need. With Trump success and Conservative Party failure as guide rails, it really should be easy to chart a populist course that can win, especially with a Labour Party as evil and malign as this one in government. But this Lowe situation seems like a massive avoidable own goal and many people see Farage and Yusuf as more responsible for it than Lowe.
You are absolutely incorrect about what Trump did. He has brought in people that were remarkably nasty to him, and were even him enemies at one point. As I explained, he literally went against the party and orthodoxy on a number of issues, in order to enlarge the tent. Many people said exactly of him what you're now saying of Nigel. Those people are now, obviously, irrelevant.
I don't know what to tell you if you think Rupert Lowe or Ben Habib could bring enough of the nation together to win a plurality or majority in the House of Commons. You are living in cloud cuckoo land.
And no, Nigel didn't "attack" Tommy. He simply responded to a question with his opinion. One which he is more than entitled to, even though I differ with him on it. Tommy knows he is his own worst enemy sometimes. He has told me that himself, many times over. Nigel's point about his behavior is simply a reflection of that instinct he has to seek out trouble, and how that sort of campaigning cannot function within a professional political party. If you think it can, why has Tommy not set up his own party? By your logic, he would be Prime Minister tomorrow?
Your problem is that you literally are the attempted puritan I write about in the piece. And this attitude will send Reform back to single digits.
Trump didn't change course.
"He has brought in other people that were remarkably nasty to him", yes, but he didn't change his objectives. He didn't give up. He's OK working with people getting good publicity. He likes it.
And most of all, Trump AND HIS TEAM created a plan to hit the opposition when they were elected. Farage hasn't even started to assemble a team to do this, after nine months in Westminster!
David Starkey, Matthew Goodwin and many others have said that the quangos, like the supreme court, the office of government statistics and the Climate Change Committee, need to be disbanded and the power AND RESPONSIBILITY need to return to ministers, so that we can return to the Crown In Parliament. This would unify the country, undoing the constitutional changes that Blair made, because it would return responsibility and authority to occupying the same space.
If the next government doesn't have a detailed manifesto, the House of Lords will BLOCK EVERY POLICY, as is the duty to do so.
I loathe Farage and his cronies in the same way I loathe Tory thieves and Labour scum! Nigel Farage's Reform UK took £120k of Covid cash - while saying 'scrap furlough'. Children and students have nor recovered yet from convid lockdowns and now we see so many with mental health issues still, no one is talking about them! Hypocrite, racist Farage also pushed Brexshit so hard that now Britain has become 3rd world country! Lack of services, mental illness, lack of jobs for the young graduates, lack of humanity or reforming the economy or the employment sector yet they have money for wars and yet no one blames Brexit or Farage or blames the corrupt thieving politicians (Tories and Labour) Zionists who sold the country and sold their souls to Lucifer for few shekels. Both wasted so much money on their friends, on useless PPP and fattening their pockets or the Elite tax evaders. They only talk about reforming welfare to the most vulnerable in our society, those on '0' contract, on lower wages and the disabled.
If you think £120K of their own taxpayer funds back to keep the party afloat is “fattening” their pockets, I can’t help you. If you think Brexit was a mistake then I’m afraid you’ve more of a screw loose than I am willing to entertain. Best of luck to you.